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Episode 8: Railways guardians, off-road high heels and Abe Lincoln

9 to when? is a podcast built for the captains of small business-shaped ships – braving the squalls and showers that come with being the master of your own destiny.

By Jamie Maddison on 11/09/2019

Listen to episode 8

Now with exciting new recording equipment, Jamie gets stuck into the pros and cons of a cashless society, Mat explains another unusually named device – one which is most definitely not a black box for your phone – and both of them can’t figure out when Leonardo Da Vinci went dinosaur hunting.

Show Notes



Finance explained

Brilliant or bonkers?

“My old father used to have a saying: If you make a bad bargain, hug it all the tighter.”

– Abraham Lincoln

“It had long since come to my attention that people of accomplishment rarely sat back and let things happen to them. They went out and happened to things.”

– Leonardo di ser Piero da Vinci (Leonardo Da Vinci)

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